Waller Family Genealogy and where it all Started with the ‘De Valer’s’

The Waller family in the UK and subsequently around the world can ALL apparently link themselves to the ‘De Valer’s’  from France back in the Norman Times. I started researching this family as it is my husband’s and I wanted it all on my family tree.  Those of you whom are familiar with my other blog ‘St.John Family Genealogy’ will see that this is another part that I am researching.
When I started this it was all just for a family tree and as with the St.Johns it has lead me now into genealogy as I am beyond the 1800’s and now into Norman Times.
How one asks can you go back that far?  Well it all started with Ancestry.co.uk and with that you get hints – and from the hints I learned that there is more to this family than originally meets the eye! Interesting thought! So I followed my instincts and searched on the internet to find out more and there is is a lot more..  and that is just on the internet!!  I have yet too go to the library and too follow all this up and when I do no doubt I am going to find out more and more.
So where does it all start?  Well,  it actually starts for us in Havant, Hampshire UK.  In the research stage of the family line it lead me to Sussex and Kent and way beyond this country of ours.  The Waller’s reach USA, Europe where some say they actually originate from – to the the furthest part,  Australia.  The ‘Waller’s are a HUGE family – all inter connected somewhere.  There is peerage, Royality and much much more to search out and discover.
At school history was NOT my forte and I can tell you this now I was absolutely board stiff with it – books and more books and not understanding a lot of it –  way over my head.  I look back now and I understand why I didnt like it!  It was text book written..  follow this and do that !  The teacher we had was very boring with his delivery and subsequently I got bored.  As I got older I realised that to know something is too read it or to watch a film on the tv.  There are lots of great films out there that some may think have no bearing on family research but to be honest they do.  Alexandra the Great – King Henry VIII and his wives, El Cid, Spartacus, Blood King, William the Conqueror and so on and so forth.  Then now a days and for the last ehhhum years I have watched Time Team – their exploits their delving into history and finding facts and showing the interesting things you can find out.  Suddenly my historical interest was seeing things in a very different way – The paperwork, certificates, the Illuminations, the bible, Old masters paintings, the Sistine Chapel.  Then there is visits to castles and museums, palaces, old great houses and parks. History is too be valued and now I understand why!  Without it we would not be whom we are today or would we?
This where I start from –  Questions to be answered –  and why are we like we are today?  Is it their fault we are an ordinary everyday working class family?  What made these changes? Why did families lose peerages and mansions and castles? How did some Waller’s end up farming and then today some being everyday people doing a worth while job and not having any clue where they come from?
The Waller family UK is where I start from and with thanks to all those people whom have taken the time to put up information on the internet and sharing with all of us I can now research this very interesting, historical family.
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13 comments on “Waller Family Genealogy and where it all Started with the ‘De Valer’s’

  1. Lanne M. Waller says:

    Thank you so much for all of this information!! I have always felt a spiritual connection to the Knight’s Templars. My maiden name is Waller. I have bee researching on Ancestry.com also on the web, tracing my heritage. I have traced my father’s line, all the way to Alfred de Valer, father of Alurde de Valer, Hero of The Battle of Hastings. My full name is Lanne Marcelle Waller. The name Marcelle…came from Magdelena on my mother’s side….We have many grandmother’s named Magdelena going back through the generations.

    • Hi Lanne – thankyou! I have also done a lot of research and I am still working on this family – there is an awful lot wrong with the lines too – so be careful what you follow and research it yourself. Pop back now and then – as I still have a lot to go on this blog.

      This is my married name – it is my husband’s line I am working on. We are the poorer side of the Waller tree – but at some point nearly every Waller leads to Alured! I have some more exciting points to blog very soon.. I love the research – but find it maddening that there are so many errors. Coming to PRE C1700 , this part of the tree would be gleaned from Historical records, wills, land ownership ect. Much after C1700 we can get parish records in quite abundance. The Templars also have my curiosty going – but it has to wait really until the rest of the records can be proved.. and verified, to what I can verify, from gleaning records from the historical land ownerships. I hope you come back and read some more soon.

      Really interesting about the name ‘Magdelena’, strange how we change over generations!

      thankyou for your post.

  2. Patricia Waller Maxwell says:

    I am a direct descendant of the Waller family and have only just recently starting working on my family tree. I live in Texas and the family moved here from Virginia. John Waller came from England when he was 19 and settled in Virginia.

  3. wallert65 says:

    Nice work…some other Waller heraldic images…I have collected many over the years…

    Coat of Arms Illustration

    https://onedrive.live.com/#cid=5C2A3C28B610AEFE&id=5C2A3C28B610AEFE%21121

  4. Thankyou, what wonderful imagery you have found! Thankyou for sharing – I have seen your flicker collection over the years. I love the windows and the crockery, my husband likes the crest ring! Which part of the Waller family do you come from?

  5. Thomas W. Waller says:

    Greetings from the Waller line still in Virginia. We too trace our line back to Alured de Wallur of Newport.Nottinghamshire via the Dooms day Book. Picking up at the immigrant Col. John Waller (1673-1754), who came to Virginia about 1698. He was the son of John Waller and Mary Pomfrett of Newport Pagnell. Col. Waller bought land and built Enfield, King William Co. Va. (still standing).
    Waller later moved to the new Spotsylvania county, which he helped to found. His home there was called Newport. He owned lots in the town of Fredericksburg, one of which was later reportedly sold to Augustus Washington, father of George. His son built Cedar Point in the same county, and several generations of Wallers lived there. My Great-great grandfather was born there; Capt. Dabney Washington Waller (1804-1880). He moved to Walnut Hill @ 1837. It is partially in both Spot. and Caroline counties. His son Dabney Jordan Waller (1841-1925) took over the farm after serving in the CSA during the war between the states. He was a sergeant in Co. B. of the Ninth Virginia Cavalry. At least one of his sons moved to Texas, and I have some letters to that effect. Another went to Missouri. D.J.remarried after his first wife died (Caroline Pleasants) to Alice Caroline ((Baker) Lee, who was born in England. Their only son was Raymond M. Waller, who owned part of Walnut Hill now called Cloverlea. My father was his son, R.M. Waller, Jr.
    I have a considerable compilation of family genealogy that was assembled over several generations. Much of this can be found in the Virginia Historical Society collections.
    Thomas W. Waller
    Manassas, Va

    • HI Thomas, Thank you for your message – I have started the USA link in our tree, but obviously I am still working on the UK links. There are so many indecisive lines out there and all have to be checked. As I mentioned in one of my posts there is also a mix up with the Warren Wallers from Northamptonshire, as this family were Warren Wallers, but they dropped the Warren as they came down the country towards London. However, I do a lot of archival reading, finding links and info on the family in the Fine rolls, which helps identify areas, homes and lands owned, quit claimed or otherwise. It would be extremely interesting if these Warren Waller’s are linked somehow, I suspect they maybe, somewhere, possibly via a marriage or a person taking a name from an ancestor like the Wathen Waller’s of Ireland, as the Line starts in Nottinghamshire, more research required on this! The Waller line itself, were very close to the Royals of the time, and they tried very hard to get good marriages. Many names and stories are turning up that I would never ever have thought or entered my head! But you cannot mistake the connections via the marriage lines. Also I am finding that most were Gents, or land owners in that time period – it wasn’t until later that some were made Knights for their work with the Kings of the time. As I said in a post, the majority now have long lost the lands and homes that were in the line and many ended up farmers or labourers and some moved abroad to start new lives as your line! Reading Burke’s writings, has helped and hindered the research and there was a lot of controversy caused in finding Dr John Waller whom went to the USA! I believe now that is sorted, as many more records are now becoming available. Many more posts to come – however, sometimes life events take over!
      Regards
      sj

      • Thomas W. Waller says:

        Sarah Jane, good to hear from you. My mother wanted one of us to name a daughter that, but it did not happen. While I have a brief genealogy with names going all the way back to the Doomsday book, I have not really focused on that end. My interest has been more on the Wallers in Virginia. My aunt did a considerable amount of research, but has been taken over by dementia and her records are in the care of her son. I have copies of some of it. I honestly do not spend much time with it, as “life events” keep me busy too. I have found genealogy research vexing, and seem content to appreciate the work of others, like yourself.
        I do have in my possession a number of family items going back several generations. They all came from the Waller home called Walnut Hill, which was sold about thirty years ago. Among the prized items is a tall walnut secretary desk circa 1800, a Windsor style chair/desk Circa pre-1800, a steel wax seal bearing the Waller coat of arms (1800s?) and books dating back to as early as the colonial era. Letters and documents dating from 1840s to 1920s. As you can see, these artifacts form the basis of my interests.
        When I get the time and figure how to do it, I may post some images.
        God bless,
        Tom

  6. wallert65 says:

    Looking forward to seeing the images of that wax seal!

    • HI Wallert65, Is it Colin? I did answer your reply, but i don’t see your email so I can email you, may I have it please? You have some pictures in your collection that I would love to know where they are from? We have seen some of them, some for ourselves, found. I would love toknow more

      thankyou

      sj

  7. wallert65 says:

    Sarah Jane, email address is Thom.waller@sympatico.ca…glad to share images with you….

    Thom

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